Discmania has got the right end of the stick with these Active lines, being a great price point for decently made discs. My first starter pack had a Sensei (good enough for Eagle), Maestro (OS approach for a beginner) Genius (OK, maybe not all the discs were perfect!), Magician (silly good straight fairway) and Mentor. Back when I was a full newbie coming into DG from ultimate, and all I knew to do was throw nose up hyzers for distance, the Mentor actually was forgiving enough of my backswing rounding and stiff muscling of the swing to give me my first 100m throws. Over time, the Active plastic does beat in fairly quickly, about similar to a Jawbreaker plastic by Discraft, and turns this into a flip-up option. The answer for me was to switch to the Premium plastic which feels similar in the hand but is far more resistant to flipping over. Once my technique got better, I was ready to switch to more stable discs, but I would still recommend the Mentor as a friendly understable driver option up to 110m.